Category 5

I remember years ago I posted that global warming would warm the waters of the Atlantic until, unlike today where the northern Atlantic has cool waters that weaken hurricanes that are bound for DC, NYC and Boston, the warm waters of the future Atlantic will continue to strengthen hurricanes so that they will tend to be category 5 when they strike the north.

I think we may be seeing the first step towards that. The waters of the Caribbean seem to have warmed to the point where it is much much easier for a hurricane to escalate all the way to category 5. Future warming will stretch this zone of warm water farther and farther north.

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16 thoughts on “Category 5”

  1. Baloney.

    Remember? Global warming was invented by the chinese in order to undermine the uhmerican economy.

    What? The Chinese are weaning themselves off coal? Investing in sustainable energy? Don’t you believe them! They’re doing it in order to not consume uhmerican coal that even US coal companies are moving away from.

    Timbuk, seriously, get on the ball! You’re not in tune with today’s alternative universe.

    You know, the one where there are good folks amongst the neonazis chanting against jews.


    You’re a scientist. Is there any way to reduce the size of one’s hands surgically?

    Just asking.

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  2. “Timbuk, seriously, get on the ball!”

    Um, I know that was sarcasm, and I’m betting Uzi does, too, but this is Uzi’s post.

    “You’re a scientist. Is there any way to reduce the size of one’s hands surgically?”

    Not surgically that I know of, but maybe by taking estrogen. Drinking women’s pee might do the trick.

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  3. “Um, I know that was sarcasm, and I’m betting Uzi does, too, but this is Uzi’s post.”

    Doh! I could have sworn it was yours, Timbuk. Shouldn’t watch teevee and post at the same time I guess.

    Sorry Uzi.

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  4. I wasn’t offended. I wasn’t sure whether you thought it was written by Timbuk or whether you were just addressing a question to him.

    Wasn’t a lot for me to reply to though. I’m bored with politics right now and don’t feel like arguing about Trump. There’s probably not much to say about the hurricane situation either. I’m still worried about PnH regarding the flooding but not much more to say there either.

    There’s a sequel to Blade Runner coming out in theaters in a couple weeks. If I drive to a nearby city I can see it presented in 2D in a Premium Large Format theater with a 4K projector and a sound system built by the same guys who do concert sound systems for Metallica. Or if I drive to another nearby city I can see it presented in 3D with DBOX seats.

    I have no idea which one to choose. Anyone have any thoughts on which format I should choose to see it in?

    I’m going to face the same choice for Star Wars this winter too.

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  5. Back to the OP…

    We were in Punta Cana in Sto. Domingo in the last week of August. Had a gr8 time…

    With jet lag I would wake up between 4-5 AM and would walk the beach waiting for sunrise. At daybreak groups of a dozen or so workers would rake the beaches because of the accummulation of sargassum.

    They’d dig a 1 meter-or-so whole in the sand and bury the stuff daily. It seems that since 2011 it’s become endemic, and when the waves were up it was almost unpleasant to swim (maybe 2 days of our 10 day sojourn). Some speculate that this is from global warming as well.

    On the other side (here), every summer is getting hotter, with records broken constantly. Winters are far milder than before (in my father’s youth snow was common in Madrid, and it would last for days, now it rarely snows and never lasts more than a few hours).

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  6. I started to post something saying I was OK just in case — and after reading Uzi’s post — I wish I had.

    I kinda feel guilty about saying we were completely fine — no high water, no power outages. The only inconvenience was my oldest son missing two days work (hourly employee) — so — he’ll have less to spend on video games.

    Thank you so much for your concern — I love you, too.

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  7. “we were completely fine”

    Glad to hear it! Don’t feel guilty … everyone gets/deserves a break once in a while.

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  8. Thank god you guys are OK.

    I had survivors guilt of a sort when my dad couldn’t get a ticket on that plane that crashed despite trying as hard as he could for days. Being glad that he couldn’t get an opening on the flight meant being glad that someone else stayed on the plane and died, and I wasn’t comfortable with that.

    I eventually decided to simply wish that the plane hadn’t crashed to begin with regardless of who was on it.

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  9. Glad to hear you’re OK, PNH. And that the worst thing lost were 2 days without pay… obviously it could have been far worse, and no matter how many times we have locked horns, I certainly never wished you and yours ill.

    Hope everything works out fine!


    Also glad that you don’t live in Puerto Rico where our nutcase potus is making a mark for himself!

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  10. Major drought situation hereabouts. Fwiw.

    Some areas have potable water for a couple of months, but the drought is bad enough to start water cut-offs. Some villages are having water sent in by truck.

    I’m pretty sure that no other posters doubt that global warming is a reality. I’m sure that at least 1 doesn’t give a shit about is because he/she voted for tRump that wants to revive the coal industry.

    That’s not a dig against you, Uzi, who posted the OP and obviously is concerned about the outcome of climate change.

    I can’t remember the last day we actually had a really rainy day in Madrid. City hall is cutting off parking (except for residents) in the city center and has limited the speed limit to 70 KMH in the city center and freeways because of the pollution. Usually rain (in this season) cleans up the atmospheric contamination and Madrid has a problem with temperature inversion.

    In New Delhi it’s been calculated that breathing the polluted air is tantamount to smoking 50 cigarettes a day. I’ve seen many articles citing the MILLIONS dying annually because of air pollution, and I see that many island nations are rightfully fearing permanent innundations due to global warming.

    And here I’ll admit to ribbing Uzi, who voted for a man who wants to revive coal. I reiterate that I understand your gun interest, but do you have priorities?

    Most of Spain will probably turn into a desert in the next few years. Same for S. Italy, Greece, and other Med countries. I have no doubt that the immigration problem from N. Africa and the sub-Saharan regions have a lot to do with climate change (and western countries’ commercial actions).

    As a lay historian I can cite a number of previous climate changes (not necessarily man-made) that have made major changes in our “civilization”. In the past we overcame the changes because we were fewer, the changes were slower, and life had a “lesser value”. Under Justinian (6th century,, the world changed considerably, and that event was simply the result of volcanic eruptions and lasted a few years. During the Middle Ages there were warm and cold spells that also affected the development (or decline) of civilizations. And the temperature changes of all of these events pale in comparison with what is happenning now and what is likely to happen.

    Humanity’s greatest advances have occurred during “mild” climactic periods. We progressed from hunter-gatherers to semi-urban or urban agriculturist cultures in a very short time, and our population exploded exponentially. Our “history” is only 5000 years old. But our growth has made us particularly vulnerable to relatively small temperature changes, which pisses me off with regards to our body politic.

    The evidence is there. The effects are being felt. And the future effects are predictable. It’s not rocket science, and Uzi nailed it yet again (hel, I might become a Uzi fan! lol) when mentioning hurricances and typhoons. What Uzi failed to mention (and I don’t blame him) is that less spectacular changes might be even more important.

    The history is in our faces and it doesn’t take reading Gibbon or Herodotus to see it. In the lives of our parents or grandparents we had a dustbowl in the US, which fomented massive immigration, a massive economic impact, and a massive political change.

    A friendly rib at Uzi – I hope that your guns are worth it.

    But seriously, if there’s a major issue to pursue, besides taking down the institutional corruption of our government(s), its environmental. The corruption is, IMHO, a great part of the cause of the latter issue.

    And seriously, seeing what climate did to Europe in Justinian’s age, to the Mayans, and to a number of other civilizations in the same era… a change which pales in comparison to what’s happenning now… something must be done.

    Timbuk – you’re a scientist while I’m only a lay-historian. Uzi – you’re obsessed with single and not particularly existential issues. Uni – even if I think you’re nuts, I think that your heart is in the right place. And Alvy, though I’m an iconoclast whose role is to break images…. can this be a crusade (despite the negative connotations of the term) towards which we can unite?

    Remembering the days of the original TTB and Soars, thinking about HP and RB et al… might this be a uniting cause?

    (lol…HP might be open, but RRB? haha).

    Anywho, there’s a problem and it’s not being addressed. And I’ve gone on too long.

    Talk to me!

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  11. I am notorious as a romanophile… does anyone know that in the 2nd century AD Roman aqueducts provided Rome with more water than the 20th centuries aquedcts to NYC?

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  12. FWIW, our Summer lasted until a few weeks ago. In the 70’s-80’s, sunshine. In Valencia, people were swimming on the beach until literally 2 weeks ago.

    Now it’s cold… but Spain is in a major drought. Some reservoirs are under 10% of capacity, and even Galicia (Spain’s Washington/Oregon) is under minimums.

    I understand the Niño/Niña effects, but within living memory our climate has changed. Perhaps it’s more apparent in Spain which is on the “border” between the Sahara and continental Europe.

    My father used to tell me about sledding on the snow for days in a row in Madrid when he was a kid. It still snows here, almost every year, but it rarely stays around for more than a few hours, if at all.

    It might be hot or cold tomorrow, but you have to be an imbecile not to realize that climate change is real.

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