Scientist Innocent of Anthrax Mailings, Former Colleague Says

I personally think the anthrax killer is still at large.

Scientist Innocent of Anthrax Mailings, Former Colleague Says
Friday, April 23, 2010

http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20100423_7154.php

A former colleague of the U.S. Army scientist suspected of producing and mailing anthrax spores that killed five people in 2001 told a scientific panel yesterday that there was no way that Bruce Ivins could have committed the crime, the New York Times reported (see GSN, March 22).
Microbiologist Henry Heine told the National Academy of Sciences committee that Ivins had “absolutely not” conducted the anthrax attacks. “Among the senior scientists” at the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md., “no one believes it,” Heine said.
Generating the large amount of spores used in the mailings would have required a minimum of a year of concentrated work utilizing Army laboratory equipment, Heine said. Other researchers would have noticed that level of activity, but laboratory personnel who worked alongside Ivins did not see any suspicious conduct, he added.
Heine said that biosafety measures in place in Ivins’ work space would have been insufficient to keep the spores from creeping into nearby offices and animal cages.
“You’d have had dead animals or dead people,” Heine said in what the Times said constituted a significant public rejection of the FBI’s findings.
Ivins committed suicide in 2008 before facing charges in the case. The Justice Department formally ended its probe into the mailings in February by concluding that Ivins had alone committed the anthrax attacks with the hopes of creating a public panic that would lead to increased funding for his scientific research (see GSN, Feb. 22).
The congressionally sanctioned science panel was assigned to study the scientific methodology used by the FBI to come to the conclusion that Ivins was the anthrax mailer. That conclusion remains controversial.
“Whoever did this is still running around out there,” said Heine, who no longer works at the Army facility. “I truly believe that” (Scott Shane, New York Times, April 22).

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  1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

    http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20100423_7154.php

    Suicide is the CIA’s manner of getting rid of people. I don’t think that he actually committed suicide, think that he was killed.

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    1. pnh’s avatar

      Uni. I don’t remember the specific details that bothered me about the story they told — but I remember that things about it didn’t make sense to me. IIRC — people who knew him said he strongly anti Iraq war so it didn’t make sense that he would send anthrax to people with fake terrorist threats knowing the Bush administration was claiming Saddam had anthrax and was working with al Qaida.

      Because he was anti-war — I’m guessing he was suspicious and was asking too many “wrong” questions or knew something — and somebody who was determined to try to tie Iraq to 9-11 decided he had to go.

      Would somebody in the Bush administration be stupid enough to pull such an amateur stunt? Yes. Look at how ridiculous all their other “evidence” was. They were that stupid.

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      1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

        I agree. I think we are being told so many lies by the FBI (like they say they didn’t find black boxes from 9-11 when they did) and CIA (the dubious and incriminating Operation Northwoods) that it is extremely hard to take anything they say with any seriousness.
        I don’t think that this fella committed suicide.
        I think what happened is that the person who did it happens to work for the government, at a high level position, knows some national security secrets that he threatens to tell should they arrest him. And I think he is in a position of command, or positioned in some agency or group, that they aren’t able to help him, the real culprit of the Anthrax mailings, to commit suicide, like they might have this poor fella mentioned above.

        Things are very, very seldom as they seem, and as they are presented.

        Like 80% of this country, I don’t trust our government to act in The People’s best interest. I think they act to hold their false power, when they really have no power at all, in the deepest essence of situations.

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  2. iconoclast_555’s avatar

    As time goes by, I’m coming to the conclusion that FEAR is the overriding emotional characteristic of Americans. It’s been a constant for our entire history.

    Indians? Commies? Minorities? Immigration? Terra? Virus? Bacteria? The rest of the world?

    Why else are we so fixated on guns if not because of fear? Why is it it that only the US (amongst Western nations) needs military trials for criminals?

    And we need CLOSURE because of our fear of our own shadows. So we look to finding the first person or group we can feasibly convict, regardless of justice.

    We’re becoming pretty pathetic.

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    1. Timbuk3’s avatar

      “FEAR is the overriding emotional characteristic of Americans.”

      Not to disagree, but I might have used “motivation” in place of “characteristic”.

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    2. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

      I agree.

      Every once in a while, I wonder who invented the “no fear” slogan, because it is such a good slogan.

      NO FEAR!

      Fear is not a motivation for me.
      All my life I have acted on things most people shy away from. I wonder sometimes if it is courage or stupidity. Either way, I think for myself, and I like that.

      The last time I had any real fear was during tornado watches in Western Kansas while I was visiting my mother with 8-month old son. Seems like every time I went back there, the sirens would go off. There was this totally compulsion to get my son to the basement as fast possible. I think he picked up on it at that age because he is now terrified when the sirens go off, years and years later.

      Has anyone been watching Jesse Ventura’s series?

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  3. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

    Who are “the visitors”?

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