The Obama White House Blocks Justice.
May 21, 2012 in Uncategorized by Uniformityville_horror | 18 comments
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obama-obstructs-oversight-of-fbi-in-anthrax-case/
Obama Obstructs Oversight of FBI in Anthrax Case
Cliff Kincaid — March 24, 2010
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Despite bipartisan congressional support for examining the FBI’s gross mishandling of the post-9/11 anthrax attacks, President Barack Obama is telling Congress that he doesn’t want the agency to be scrutinized and held accountable.
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Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Oh my, didn’t Obama promise government transparency?? But what can
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like US President Obama do? He is not the boss. You are not voting for the people who really run this country.
It clearly obvious that Obama is NOT going after the people who do run this country.For the next five years, we will NOT be seeing transparency from the Obama White House. For we have not seen it in the last three years.
IG investigator says White House hindered probe of oil spill report
Comments () By DONOVAN SLACK | 5/8/12 1:08 PM EDT
An investigator for the Interior Department’s Inspector General claims the White House hindered an investigation into a report on the BP oil spill by blocking access to a key official and email records, the New Orleans Times-Picayune is reporting.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/05/ig-investigator-says-white-house-hindered-probe-of-122774.htmlObama blocks list of visitors to White House
Taking Bush’s position, administration denies msnbc.com request for logs
By Bill Dedman
Investigative reporter
msnbc.com
updated 6/16/2009 4:54:16 PM ET
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The Obama administration is fighting to block access to names of visitors to the White House, taking up the Bush administration argument that a president doesn’t have to reveal who comes calling to influence policy decisions.White House Denies Congress by Blocking Testimony of Willing Fast and Furious Witness
White House Denies Congress by Blocking Testimony of Willing Fast and Furious Witness
April 9, 2012 byda TagliareMOre blocking of truth by Obama’s White House:
In reversal, Obama seeks to block abuse photos
Images reportedly depict the abuse of prisoners by U.S. military in IraqObama Admin Blocks Bank Investigations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL63bki4kzkhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/patriot-act-extension-signed-obama-autopen_n_867851.html
Patriot Act Extension Signed By ObamaAnd so the people who WANT to get the truth out (pun: truthout) are not able to.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/reporters-privilege-obama-war-leaks-new-york-times_n_1527748.html‘Reporter’s Privilege’ Under Fire From Obama Administration Amid Broader War On Leaks
Posted: 05/18/2012 2:48 pm Updated: 05/18/2012 5:58 pm
RICHMOND, Va. — The Obama administration Friday morning continued its headlong attack on the right of reporters to protect their confidential sources in leak investigations.
Before a panel of the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, a Department of Justice lawyer argued that New York Times reporter James Risen should be forced to testify in the trial of former CIA agent Jeffrey Sterling, who is charged with leaking classified information to Risen about a botched plot against the Iranian government.VN:R_U [1.9.22_1171]Rating: 0 (from 0 votes) -
Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 7:12 pm
There is no freedom of the press.
Operation Dark Hearthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Heart
http://www.operationdarkheart.com/
http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2010/09/behind_the_censor.html
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jo6pac on May 21, 2012 at 7:15 pm
0s normal answer to the problem nothing to see here its history and my govt. isn’t looking back into problems of the bush the lesser and cheney the minister of darkness. Then again just look at the wreckage if you are a whistle blower of crimes by Amerika vendors against the nation. The said vendor goes on and whistle blowers career is ruined or off to jail. Like these 2 below
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/Here’s another raid on reporters rights.
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/16/obamas_new_free_speech_threat/singleton/
Oh well time for wine.
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Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Well, that simply tells me Obama was merely more of the same from the Bush years. It’s isn’t about parties and their supposed flags of stances on issues. It is more about being told what to do once you are in supposed positions of power. That it all merely more of the same.
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Jeebus. Did you even read the story?
I urge everyone to do so. See if you can make ANY connection between the “Obama is worse than Hitler” headline written by RW whacko conspiracy theorist Cliff Kincaid and the content of his own Scaife-funded column.
The closest I could come is this bit of “she said that he said that someone else might” nonsense:
Megan Eckstein of the Frederick (Maryland) News-Post reports that Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag sent a letter to four congressional leaders on March 15 rejecting the probe and suggesting that if this measure remains in the intelligence spending bill, Obama may veto it.
Here’s a better headline; “Obama hater publishes negative oped about Obama with no basis in any discernible facts”.
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Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 9:09 pm
I just did a bing search. I do not normally go to that site nor am I, like you, attuned to who is and who isn’t conservative or liberal.
I am not the duelist. You are. To you, it is either/or, like a page from the Bush book.
I am neither.
I do however DEMAND the truth about the Anthrax killings and about the truth of 9-11. Yeah, we all know about the lies, for they are considered the “official” theories. OK, I know what I am supposed to believe. I just am not as easily directed as Bush and Obama wish.
There was an anthrax drill in NYC on Sept. 10, 2001. Hmmmm!
http://www.bing.com/search?q=tripod+II+drill+Sept+10,+2001&form=APMCS1Again, I am FOR:
Strong Individual Rights
Government Transparency and Accountability
LIMITED GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strong Separation of state and church
Term Limits for Congressional electees, national, state and local.
Fiscal Responsiblity
Constitutional Restraint
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 9:36 pm
It wasn’t my intention to shoot the source. I do think that it’s fair to point out that the author is a nut working for an organization funded by one of the most notorious RW “anti” sources of funding, but generally if that’s the only argument someone makes about one of my “lefty” sources I ask them to refute what was said. “Look at the source” is, IMO, one of the weakest arguments that can be made.
But “read the story” and “see if you can find the correlation” isn’t that kind of argument, at all. There is no correlation there, at which point I can disregard the piece as meaningless alarmism, regardless of the source.
Feel free to “demand” all the “truth” you want to, but I don’t see how this post got you any closer to it, whatever “it” is. To whom are these “demands” addressed?
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Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Well, that is a nice spin.
Lately have been noticing how dismissive people are. Very interesting to see it here too.
Next time, I will just give the bing search link and you are choose which ones you are to read on the topics I present.And there is no point in seeing one side without the other side being present, if you desire duelism, the either/or of things, rather than sitting in the middle where the wisdom really resides. Tim, your links are very slanted too. They merely slant the opposite way. The Daily Kos gives me indigestion.
Let’s just coalesce to the point where we really desire being told the truth, shall we? And that we love this country. And that we care about our fellow man. And that I am sitting in the middle to two extremes.
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Sorry, but I don’t see you as sitting in the middle. For example, Obama is far closer to the middle than Paul or rMoney.
I’m willing to work with you where we agree, but I’m not willing to cede “the middle ground” to you without challenge.
Some things don’t have two sides. I see no point in including the “the moon is made of green cheese” side in a serious discussion about the moon. If I was planning a trip around the word I wouldn’t ask a flat-earther for help with my travel plans. And there’s no real point in discussing economic recovery with anyone who thinks the deficit is our biggest problem.
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Hmmm…
You updated while I was replying. Let’s see where we can work together.
“Strong Individual Rights”
It depends on what you mean. The government has no business in my bedroom, or listening in on my phone calls. We’re probably on the same side on this, but only if you agree that corporations aren’t “individuals”.
“Government Transparency and Accountability”
Sure. Why not?
“LIMITED GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
See “Individual rights” above, but I’ll oppose you tooth and nail if you include things like no Federal government regulation of banks, oil companies, insurance companies, the Federal government’s mandated duties to do things like promote the general welfare, collect taxes, ensure the safety of our food and drugs…
“Strong Separation of state and church”
We’re 100% together, here.
“Term Limits for Congressional electees, national, state and local.”
And diametrically opposed, here.
“Fiscal Responsiblity”
Again, subject to interpretation. Like Alvy, I’m a Keynesian. I want my Federal government spending more than they take in, right now, and “redistributing the wealth” from the wealthy to those who will spend it and revive this shitty economy. Once we’re functioning again, I’m all for saving for the next rainy day, but now ain’t the time.
“Constitutional Restraint”
I have no idea what this means.
“and some more, since I always seem to forget one or two.”
LOL
Rick Perry moment?
Oops?
Sorry. Not a shot. Just think it’s funny.
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Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 9:57 pm
I want banks regulated too. My motto that I mantra to my elected sleaders,
“Regulate Business, not people.”
Regulate the Stock market and prosecute law breakers. AND end Derivaties like most other countries have done.Why are you opposed to term limits?
I find that missing trillions in the Rumsfeld pentagon should be investigated. I want government agencies, like the CIA, and the FBI held accountable with severe punishments for breaking laws that the rest of the country must follow.
So tell me, Big Boy, What is the best thing that you think Obama has done for us, something that I can actually FEEL or experience affecting my life.
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 10:19 pm
“So tell me, Big Boy”
Really, uni? You may not like my firm resolve, but I still think you’re better than this.
I want banks regulated too. My motto that I mantra to my elected sleaders,
“Regulate Business, not people.”
Regulate the Stock market and prosecute law breakers. AND end Derivaties like most other countries have done.Cool with me. My plan is to elect people who will pass legislation making this possible, which pretty much means helping progressive Democrats get elected. What’s your plan?
“Why are you opposed to term limits?
I thought I was pretty clear, but I see no point in legislating that we have to give up a “good” politician and vote for “one of the two losers” that might be available to replace them.
“What is the best thing that you think Obama has done for us”
With the exception of the mandate, which is a close call but I still think I’m opposed to because it hurts young people, I’m liking the health insurance reforms more, all the time. Not because they’re perfect, but because I think people will get used to them (like they did with the decidedly imperfect social security law when it first passed) and they’ll demand improvement. I like that the war in Iraq is over, and point out that Obama was under no obligation to stick with any existing Bush timetables. The stimulus was too small, thanks to Republicans and blue dog Dems, but I think it saved us from a worldwide depression. The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act doesn’t go far enough, but it’s a start if the GOP will let it work. I think he took a risk in saving the auto industry, and without him we’d have lost millions of jobs in that industry, and related industries. He’s been pretty good on social issues, defending a woman’s right to legal medical treatment, helping get rid of DADT the right way, and recently coming out (pardon the pun) in favor of gay marriage (equal rights for all). He kicked the banks out of the Federal student loan program, and increased Pell grants, in stark contrast to the GOP’s hostage taking over student loan interest rates. Fuel economy standards have been increased, which, even if you don’t believe in anthropogenic global climate weirding, means we won’t have to import as much oil and send all our money to the middle east. He’s been a champ in supporting veterans, which is sort of a “hate the war, love the warrior” situation for me.
I think the SCOTUS is damned important, and he protected two “liberal” seats on that court.
Shall I go on?
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Uniformityville_horror on May 21, 2012 at 10:39 pm
The Democrats are just asx repressive as the GOP, Tim. Why are you not able to see that? Look at Pelosi. She tells you what you want, not the other way around. Pretty shady stuff to me. I cannot stand her. Can’t stand Boenher or however it is spelled, those strange German dipthongs. Neither political party is clean.
Sorry, giving the FDA more power is just more and more oppression, and a push to have corporations rule our lives.
I don’t see where you get the consumer protection at. I think we should be able to buy raw milk if we want to. I think that we should be able to buy elderberry syrup from any vender we so choose, like when i really wanted to keep my money in Kansas. Obama is repressive, extremely so.
You think I am better than this because you think you can counter my objections to Obama. But you know, I didn’t love him to begin with, didn’t want to vote for him last time. But the CIA wanted it, Palin was involved and I just felt so much like a trapped and freezing animal when I voted for him.
I am not trapped now. I will write in Paul or vote for Romney, unless he picks some Relgious Rite nut, like McCain did, to be his running mate. I want paul. Will vote for Romney to beat Obama.
But, without Paul, Romney or Obama, it will be just more of the f-g same.It is just so simple. Obama lied to us. I cannot stand him. Neither can my spouse who donated to his last campaign. Obama has lost two votes from this family. It is not just me.
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Pelosi got some of the best, most progressive legislation I’ve seen in my lifetime through the House, only to see it die to the GOP abuse of the filibuster in the Senate. Why can’t you see this. (Alternately, “think about it”.)
I think you’re better than this because I’ve never seen you stoop to name-calling, before.
I’m not sure how to reply to “loving” Obama. I certainly don’t think he’s perfect. If Bernie Sanders or Barney Frank were black, because it would ENRAGE the right wingers, they’d be much better Presidents, with the exception that you’d see obstructionism that is incomprehensibly more vile and evil than what’s been done to Obama and NOTHING would pass through Congress. Obama’s a centrist. I disagree with him on some things. C’est la guerre. Our votes don’t mean shit. I will vote for Obama, but he will win my state whether I do or not. You will vote for whoever you vote for, and rMoney will win your state. Obama will win Jo’s state, rMoney will win Alvy’s state, and so it goes. None of us is trapped, but it’s becoming clear that some of us are paralyzed. It’s the “down ticket” races that matter.
Give Obama a strong progressive majority in congress and prove me wrong that he’d sign what they send him. I don’t think you can. Not when the starting point is abject, deranged hatred of Obama and Democrats.
You don’t have to love the Democrats. Just recognize that ANYONE you can name in Congress/Government who you can even stand is either a Democrat, or caucuses with the Democrats. Maybe start with Sebalius, then work your way up to Grijalva and Sanders. Spit on Lieberpuke as you stroll by. I’m good with that.
We have to start somewhere, and “throw them all out” has already been taken by the teabaggers.
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Timbuk3 on May 21, 2012 at 10:02 pm
“diametrically opposed”
I should expand on this. “Term limits” won’t solve anything. Besides, why shouldn’t I be able to keep voting for someone who’s actually doing a good job for my district?
Nope, what we need is to get the money out of politics, do the exact OPPOSITE of “citizen’s united”. A politician should be able to, be FORCED to, run on his/her record. And that record shouldn’t include being a fundraiser starting the day they’re sworn in, which a two-year term congressman is pretty much obligated to be under our present system. I don’t have all the answers on this. No advertising more than 30 days before an election *might* help, but the law of unintended consequences needs to be examined. No personal funding of a political run? Only government funding, and you need a certain number of supporters to get it? Maybe. I’ve thought about this a lot, and ultimately I always give up because the money is so firmly entrenched.
I don’t have any doubt that this is why “You are not voting for the people who really run this country”. If everyone who posts here, and on 3 other random blogs, all pooled our money we could maybe stand up to a Superpac for a day or two. When I think about things like this, I start to think giving up and watching out for my own might be my best, perhaps only, option.
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Uniformityville_horror on May 22, 2012 at 10:17 pm
If I had not said this before, and for all to see, I still adore the cyber you, Tim. Don ‘t know the real you. But I like who you are here. That is not at all likely to be altered in any manner unless you make some drastic changes.
http://orange-papers.org/orange-cultinfo.htmlhttp://orange-papers.org/orange-cultinfo.html
We are going to see this in play more and more. Last election, four years ago, this was what everyone else called the “Obama Wave.” I am sure that parts of this were not in play but a good portion of it was indeed in full play. For all you anti-dissenters here, I never really caught The Wave when it went thru here. I recognized the dubious antics immediately.
I have been reading this pdf.
Kris Kobach, when he was leading the GOP here in Kansas, called for GOP purity tests in all it’s state-wide GOP candidates. It did not go over well. Outrageously, he is our Sec Of State, but I seriously doubt he gets reelected. He is losing some stuff in courts about redistricting and, of course, campaign finance violations. He helped pen the Patriot Act. He is also the guy that helped Arizona write there anti-immigration laws.
I think the Daily Kos also practices this. They have a serious purity test there.
I am telling you, I think of that site as coming from the dark side. Now I know there is indeed a necessity for the dark side, a need for balance. But hey, I don’t have to be involved with it. That is all that matters. I choose the light.Eight Conditions of Thought Reform
as presented in
Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of “Brainwashing” in China, by Robert Jay Lifton, M.D.; W. W. Norton & Co., Inc., 1963.
Milieu Control The most basic feature of the thought reform environment, the psychological current upon which all else depends, is the control of human communication. Through this milieu control the totalist environment seeks to establish domain over not only the individual’s communication with the outside (all that he sees and hears, reads and writes, experiences, and expresses), but also — in its penetration of his inner life — over what we may speak of as his communication with himself. It creates an atmosphere uncomfortably reminiscent of George Orwell’s 1984…. (Page 420.)
Purposeful limitation of all forms of communication with outside world.The control of human communication through environment control.
The cult doesn’t just control communication between people, it also controls people’s communication with themselves, in their own minds.
Mystical Manipulation The inevitable next step after milieu control is extensive personal manipulaton. This manipulation assumes a no-holds-barred character, and uses every possible device at the milieu’s command, no matter how bizarre or painful. Initiated from above, it seeks to provoke specific patterns of behavior and emotion in such a way that these will appear to have arisen spontaneously from within the environment. This element of planned spontaneity, directed as it is by an ostensibly omniscient group, must assume, for the manipulated, a near-mystical quality. (Page 422.)
Potential convert is convinced of the higher purpose within the special group.Everyone is manipulating everyone, under the belief that it advances the “ultimate purpose.”
Experiences are engineered to appear to be spontaneous, when, in fact, they are contrived to have a deliberate effect.
People mistakenly attribute their experiences to spiritual causes when, in fact, they are concocted by human beings.
The Demand for Purity The experiential world is sharply divided into the pure and the impure, into the absolutely good and the absolutely evil. The good and the pure are of course those ideas, feelings, and actions which are consistent with the totalist ideology and policy; anything else is apt to be relegated to the bad and the impure. Nothing human is immune from the flood of stern moral judgements. (Page 423.)
The philosophical assumption underlying this demand is that absolute purity is attainable, and that anything done to anyone in the name of this purity is ultimately moral.The cult demands Self-sanctification through Purity.
Only by pushing toward perfection, as the group views goodness, will the recruit be able to contribute.
The demand for purity creates a guilty milieu and a shaming milieu by holding up standards of perfection that no human being can attain.
People are punished and learn to punish themselves for not living up to the group’s ideals.
The Cult of Confession Closely related to the demand for absolute purity is an obsession with personal confession. Confession is carried beyond its ordinary religious, legal, and therapeutic expressions to the point of becoming a cult in itself. (Page 425.)
Public confessional periods are used to get members to verbalize and discuss their innermost fears and anxieties as well as past imperfections.The environment demands that personal boundaries are destroyed and that every thought, feeling, or action that does not conform with the group’s rules be confessed.
Members have little or no privacy, physically or mentally.
Aura of Sacred Science (those man-made global warming nuts.) The totalist milieu maintains an aura of sacredness around its basic dogma, holding it out as an ultimate moral vision for the ordering of human existence. This sacredness is evident in the prohibition (whether or not explicit) against the questioning of basic assumptions, and in the reverence which is demanded for the originators of the Word, the present bearers of the Word, and the Word itself. While thus transcending ordinary concerns of logic, however, the milieu at the same time makes an exaggerated claim of airtight logic, of absolute “scientific” precision. Thus the ultimate moral vision becomes an ultimate science; and the man who dares to criticize it, or to harbor even unspoken alternative ideas, becomes not only immoral and irreverent, but also “unscientific”. In this way, the philosopher kings of modern ideological totalism reinforce their authority by claiming to share in the rich and respected heritage of natural science. (Pages 427-428.)
The cult advances the idea that the cult’s laws, rules and regulations are absolute and, therefore, to be followed automatically.The group’s belief is that their dogma is absolutely scientific and morally true.
No alternative viewpoint is allowed.
No questioning of the dogma is permitted.
Loading the Language The language of the totalist environment is characterized by the thought-terminating cliché. [Slogans] The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed.
The cult invents a new vocabulary, giving well-known words special new meanings, making them into trite clichés. The clichés become “ultimate terms”, either “god terms”, representative of ultimate good, or “devil terms”, representative of ultimate evil. Totalist language, then, is repetitiously centered on all-encompassing jargon, prematurely abstract, highly categorical, relentlessly judging, and to anyone but its most devoted advocate, deadly dull: the language of non-thought. (Page 429.)Controlling words helps to control people’s thoughts.
The group uses black-or-white thinking and thought-terminating clichés.
The special words constrict rather than expand human understanding.
Non-members cannot simply comprehend what cult members are talking about.
Doctrine over Person Another characteristic feature of ideological totalism: the subordination of human experience to the claims of doctrine. (Page 430.)
Past experience and values are invalid if they conflict with the new cult morality.The value of individuals is insignificant when compared to the value of the group.
Past historical events are retrospectively altered, wholly rewritten, or ignored to make them consistent with doctrinal logic.
No matter what a person experiences, it is belief in the dogma which is important.
Group belief supersedes individual conscience and integrity.
Dispensed Existence The totalist environment draws a sharp line between those whose right to existence can be recognized, and those who possess no such right.
Lifton gave a Communist example:
In thought reform, as in Chinese Communist practice generally, the world is divided into “the people” (defined as “the working class, the peasant class, the petite bourgeoisie, and the national bourgeoisie”), and “the reactionaries” or “the lackies of imperialism” (defined as “the landlord class, the bureaucratic capitalist class, and the KMT reactionaries and their henchmen”). (Page 433.)The group decides who has a right to exist and who does not.
The group has an elitist world view — a sharp line is drawn by cult between those who have been saved, chosen, etc. (the cult members) and those who are lost, in the dark, etc. (the rest of the world).
Former members are seen as “weak, ” “lost,” “evil,” and “the enemy”.
The cult insists that there is no legitimate alternative to membership in the cult.
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Timbuk3 on May 22, 2012 at 10:51 pm
“I still adore the cyber you, Tim. Don ‘t know the real you. But I like who you are here.”
I’m glad, uni. FWIW, I’m glad you post here, and glad you came back after last night.
FWIW, I share your trepidation about Kos’s blog. I think I parted company with them when I got in an argument with a transsexual about a joke I’d made about “Man” Coulter. I made a joke post about multiple Halloween costumes, and one of them involved stuffing a sausage in your pants and going as Ann. Crude, in poor taste? ABSOLUTELY.
But people make fun of me, and I don’t threaten to banish their thoughts to never be heard again.
I don’t post on Kos much, any more, and when I do I’m incredibly careful to watch my language lest I raise the ire of some special interest group. I’m not giving up my 37123 UID for no reason at all.
I just thought it was kinda cool that I’d started an interesting conversation about the annular eclipse. There wasn’t any bullshit in that diary of mine.
One more thing. Who I am “here” is who I am in real life. Unless I’m drunk.
I’d tell you to look for deleted posts, but, um, you know, they’re DELETED.You, ALL of you, should feel free to post whatever you want here. My goal, years ago when I started this thing, was to give the Yahooligans somewhere to flame, and stay in touch. It’s too bad the old titty board became so feared that the “conservatives” (RW assholes, really, from the sores board) have chosen not to challenge us, but I’ve always viewed that as deference to our ability to refute their constant stream of lies.
And, as always, I reserve my right to disagree, and to question anyone’s beliefs.
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