Just thinking

I have been wondering just how much environmental chemical pollution is caused by plastics.
Smell a solo cup sometime,
I just opened up a polytech above ground pool  Man on man! I am letting it air out for sev eral days before I put water in it,
What is the chemical smell doing to the ozone?

I can’t have a below-ground pool here due to proximity to the levee.

 

http://www.bing.com/search?q=chemical+smalls+in+plastic+and+pollution&form=MOZSBR&pc=MOZI

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  1. jo6pac’s avatar

    When I had job in the trades when a new office building was completed we would try and keep a building 90f for 5 days using nothing but fresh air on intake and 100% exhausting the old air to try and overcome this problem. If you didn’t do this you couldn’t stay in the building for more than a few minutes. I always felt sorry for the carpet and furniture people. This was a problem that new cars back a few yrs ago. Better living with chemicals, right
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_chloride

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    1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

      My best friend, even to this day, whose dad was a pharmacist, actually always said “Better living thru chemicals.” In high school, I heard it all the time as she would pop a quaalude (sp?). LOL.
      I was always the sober, the driver, back then.

      I left the pool outdoors, unfolded and ready to go, without water in it, but in the 104 degree temps. Heat the blasted thing up and let it respire that crap. Maybe I will let it go another day of airing. But it sure is hot there. I didn’t smell it later on.

      This is tonight’s sunset over the river. The sun was flaming red. I didn’t get the color captured. But I did get the pink water.

      AND this is part of the reason why the sunset was red. Early this month, on the first day of the fire, we drove thru the smoke as we went from Denver to Rawlins, Wy. I am going to try and get these photos on here, but I have not mastered the cyber mechanisms here.

      WOW! That took some page manipulations!

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    2. Timbuk3’s avatar

      I was going to say something about “plasticizers” and “the new car smell”, but you’ve basically beat me to it.

      Let the thing air out, or not. Nothing in the plasiticizers will stick around for more than a few days. Then, you’ll be enjoying the pool.

      I want to say something about a rather disturbing visit to “the Landmark Mall” in Alexandria, VA, but I’m not quite sure what to say.

      2/3 of the stores were closed, and DC has the lowest unemployment rate in the nation. What should I think about that?

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      1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

        Money issues?
        Too close to the 4th?
        Closed as in no longer in business?
        My late sister’s spouse lived there, close to Langley, I imagine. NO, I am thinking of Arlington.

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        1. Timbuk3’s avatar

          No, this was bizarre. My wife and I walked through vast expanses of this mall and saw nothing but closed stores.

          Alexandria isn’t exactly undergoing a recession. I think it may be the lowest unemployment rate in the country. But it was like walking through some “former glory”. Very weird.

          I think the middle class has “retracted”. We’d rather save then spend. Which is VERY smart, unless you’re a 1%er, who want’s to suck the life out of us.

          But it’s going to be hard on “specialized” businesses, which are hard on malls in downturns.

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            Sometimes malls are extremely poorly managed too. Sears has closed down here. Told people a decade ago that they were running low on cash, and knew they would crash. When customers are treated like doodoo, I always think of cash problems in the company.

            OUr major retail street, Mass street, trying to maintain the Lawrence quaintness, despite it’s unchecked western and southern developments of “rabbit hutches” and/or “homes for future taxpayers”, is showing signs of empty stores as well. But the ones who are leaving are the major US outlets.
            Here, American Outfitters and Gap all left, while the locally-owned stores have managed to remain in play. There is this strong “buy local” kick going on. My guess is Starbucks leaves too soon, because they are right across the street from a locally-owned coffee shop, a shop that is the local IN place to be.

            I dunno, Tim, check and see what is leaving and what stores remain. Perhaps we are having some effect on the pocketbooks of that pissy 1%.

            I have been wanting to start a tea shop.

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            1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

              The idea I have been kicking around lately is going to the other neighborhood gardeners, to throw out this idea:

              We should have our own produce trade stand.
              Last year, I grew so much okra that I didn’t know what to do with it all.
              Some years, for me, it is tomatoes.
              Was thinking of getting together with the other gardens and organizing either a neighborhood produce stand or in creating a list of people who relate what produce they think they will have more of than they really need. Then we could just call each other and swap.
              Heck, we could just put paper in the front windows naming produce we have too much of, so all you have to do is drive by and see what is ready to swap.

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    Harrison Crandall was my grandmother’s uncle. I took a photograph of his painting there at the visitor’s center on the road to Jenny Lake. Once the lands around the Tetons were sold to Rockafeller, Harrison was allowed to live on the park for as long as he lived. I remember going to see him once, he and Hilda. His studio stood across the laughing stream from his home, spanned by a beautiful and quaint bridge. We met his grandson, who was cloud-seeder. The open room in their cabin faced the Tetons, a view even then that awed and silenced the child that I was. Harrison smelled distinctively old when I met him. He smoked too, and I remember that smell as well. Remember, I recall with a child-like mind’s memories.

    In the back room, in the addition to my grandparent’s house, was a whole wall that was a photograph of the Tetons that Harrison took. His photograph was made into wall paper. So I played around Harrison’s art when I was young.

    Photo of painting, Harrison Crandall

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Harrison+Crandall&form=MOZSBR&pc=MOZI

    Amature photos of The Tetons in their present state are available if you want me to post them.

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    Just thinking! But hey, we already knew this:

    6/25/12 at 12:41 PM

    Yes, Bush v. Gore Did Steal the Election

    By Jonathan Chait

    http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-opinion-section/72-72/12136

    —————–

    And “In the end, 17 Democrats voted yes.” Against Holder.
    http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/12147-breaking-eric-holder-found-in-contempt-of-congress

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    1. Timbuk3’s avatar

      Nice pictures (above). Thanks.

      Conservatives are going nuts, right now, threatening to move to Canada to escape our socialist nightmare of equal access to healthcare, etc. Never mind that Canada has universal healthcare. That’d be like expecting a conservative to make sense, which is insane.

      At any rate, I was thinking about when I first realized that American is going to fail.

      Bush v. Gore.

      Not the ruling. I’d expect the SCOTUS to rule like that, in a completely partisan fashion.

      But, because the American people’s collective response was “ho hum”.

      Gore won the popular vote. The vote count in FL was at least questionable. Gore (who for who fucking knows what the reason was picked that horrible POS Lieberman as his VP) “humbly” stepped aside without a fight.

      The RW was happy.

      The LW (including me) decided that posting about our outrage on blogs was really the best we could do. I mean, going to DC and storming the WH would require me to take a precious day of leave, maybe even risk arrest. I’d have to be INSANE to do that, right? I mean, fuck, when you only get 3 weeks of leave a year (and you’re lucky in that, compared to most people in the US, but not the rest of the civilized world), you’d have to be nuts to waste it on a chance of going to jail, right?

      So, from a certain perspective, I can understand “things have to get worse before they’ll get better”. You have to shock people to get them to move off the status quo.

      But I just don’t want to fucking live through a revolution. Sane people don’t, because people die (maybe me?) in revolutions.

      I keep looking for ways and reasons to fix what’s wrong through “normal channels”, but as long as the American voter is REASONABLY fat and happy it just ain’t gonna happen.

      Can you afford to buy a gellato once/month? You’re not a revolutionary. There will be no revolution.

      The best I can come up with is “embrace your neighbors”, realize we’re all in this together, and find SOME way to convince the vast majority that the 1% really does want to work us until we die. It’s that simple. No security for anyone who’s not part of the 1%, keep us afraid of EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY losing our jobs (and health insurance), and have a country of wage-slaves and “owners”. But the Christian message pales in comparison to the vision of the far-right christianists “christian” brotherhood.

      How do you tell a truth like that and still sound sane, in view of the overwhelming (corporate owned) media message that “if only we cut taxes on the rich the job creators more, everything’s gonna be OK”?

      Yeah, I realize I’m ranting at this point. I think I’ll post it, anyway.

      It’s extremely basic economics; if the supply dries up, there’s no demand.

      If you kill the middle class, there’s no demand.

      If there’s no demand, businesses don’t hire more people to meet demand.

      No business hires because their profits are up.

      They hire because they can’t meet demand.

      A strong middle class (demand) requires “redistribution of wealth”.

      Therefore, “redistribution of wealth” drives our economy.

      It shouldn’t be allowed to become a dirty word. Corporate profits shouldn’t be at an all-time high, along with high unemployment, at the tail-end of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

      We need to pry the money from the greedy, give it to the poor and middle class, and re-start things.

      And yeah, I don’t blame Obama, who’s working with the worst teabagger House in history, or Harry Reid, who’s working with the most obstructionist minority in US history. I blame the GOP, whose stated goal is “finding someone who can sign his name” to the most heinous legislation in the history of this once-great nation.

      What can I do, as a blogger on a backwoods blog to get people to see that the GOP is the real enemy?

      I’ve said this for years. I’m not a Democrat. I will vote for ANYONE who can defeat the GOP candidate. Socialist, Green, Libertarian, whatever. Until we relegate the GOP to “minor party” status, the entire world will be fucked up.

      Still ranting, I know, but I honestly can’t understand how or why anyone would do or say anything that helps those authoritarian, rage-filled when they can’t tell the rest of us what to do, FUCKERS, do anything but be relegated to the dustbins of history.

      Get the money out of politics? Democrats need to raise enough money to win to get the power to do it. That means sucking the dick of the wealthy.

      Republicans suck that rich dick for no other reason than they think they’ll be wielding that rich dick, some day.

      Get Americans, including racist scumbag fuckers in Southern states, to understand that “us v them” isn’t “white v black”, or “insurance payers v I’ll take my chances on the ER”, or any other false dichotomy they (the corporate owned media) force on us, but rather a battle between the “already haves” and the rest of us, and we could see a bloodless revolution that might finally get the power of money out of our politics.

      But maybe, just maybe, we can enlighten the masses. Tell ‘em things like “a strong middle class makes economic sense”, or “the constitution doesn’t guarantee that whatever your pastor says is instantly over-riding American law”, or even “it’s OK to impose a progressive income tax”.

      I’m not confident, because I think the average American voter is either too busy working 27 jobs just to make ends meet, or fat and happy because all of the things we hold in contempt our parents gave to us in the form of worker’s rights.

      So maybe “let it all go to shit” makes sense. At least my grandkids wouldn’t have to live with the hellish, “kill or be killed” world we’re leaving them.

      /rant off

      P.S. – If I haven’t been clear, I have NO respect for the intelligence of the average American voter.

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      1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

        Check out the crandall stuff I just added.

        LOL.

        You must respect your fellow man, your fellow citizen. Those politicians are not being directed by the voter. They are being directed by the Corporated States of America. That is why all the ballyhoo by the GOP. They are not up-in-arms for us citizens. They are up-in-arms for all the US and international corporations that bought them.

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  3. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

    Tim, do try to get in more magnesium. It will take care of your tension and perhaps hypertension. But not too much. GI disturbances will ensue if you do.

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    1. Timbuk3’s avatar

      Thanks, Uni. I’ll take a look.

      We may not always agree. Indeed, I may think at times that you’re a bit of a kook (but I hold kooks in high esteem for their ability to make me look at things differently), but I appreciate our friendship.

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      1. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

        Well there is some mutual stuff going on here then.

        About that t-storm. Send it this way. Grass is dying, … in June.

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  4. Timbuk3’s avatar

    Thunderstorm, here.

    May have to shut down.

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  5. Uniformityville_horror’s avatar

    Found another something that is minor enough NOt to create a new thread.
    So,… Just thinking.

    What do you think of this?

    Posted by Liberty_one June 29, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.

    Obamacare Doomed! Here’s the Loophole that Anyone Can Exploit!
    http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/liberty_one/2012/jun/29/obamacare-doomed-heres-the-loophole-that/

    So, what’s the loophole? Don’t buy insurance, don’t pay the penalty, and then only buy insurance when you get sick since they can’t deny you coverage. The penalty/tax is so small that it’s a lot cheaper than buying insurance, and the IRS is likely not going to be able to collect it from you anyway. Not only that, you can wait until you are sick and then buy insurance and be fully covered. And here’s the kicker: since the Court ruled that the law is constitutional only so long as the penalty/tax remains small enough to be considered to not force people to choose to buy health insurance, they can’t raise it without risking the bill being overturned!

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